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Series 1: Episode 7 – Ellie Bigwood
Episode 7
June 2, 2023
</iframe</div><p><strong>RETURNING TO ROOTS</strong></p><p><strong>Written by Bec Bignell</strong></p><p>Ellie Bigwood is from a small country town, but she’s always had big dreams. Raised on a farm in Frankland River, Ellie’s grateful for her childhood in regional Australia, “I loved the upbringing in the country…it’s just very wholesome. You know, you grow and eat your own food, and you’re surrounded by this community of people who know you from the day that you’re born, and care about you until you leave and go to wherever you might go across the world.”</p><p><img data-lazyloaded="1" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciIHdpZHRoPSI0ODQiIGhlaWdodD0iMTAyNCIgdmlld0JveD0iMCAwIDQ4NCAxMDI0Ij48cmVjdCB3aWR0aD0iMTAwJSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxMDAlIiBzdHlsZT0iZmlsbDojY2ZkNGRiO2ZpbGwtb3BhY2l0eTogMC4xOyIvPjwvc3ZnPg==" fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-10995" data-src="https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Somerset-House-London-484x1024.jpg" alt="Series 1: Episode 7 - Ellie Bigwood - Image 1" width="484" height="1024" data-srcset="https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Somerset-House-London-484x1024.jpg 484w, https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Somerset-House-London-142x300.jpg 142w, https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Somerset-House-London-727x1536.jpg 727w, https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/Somerset-House-London.jpg 757w" data-sizes="(max-width: 484px) 100vw, 484px" /></p><p><strong>TAKING THE GIRL OUT OF THE COUNTRY…</strong></p><p>The born and bred country girl with a big, bright personality always wondered what life was like beyond her backyard and when she was selected to participate in the Australian Wool Innovation’s Graduate Training Program, she was given an opportunity to explore the wide world.</p><p>The daughter of a farmer, Ellie naturally cultivated an appreciation of the agricultural industry; a passion she wanted to pursue professionally. When she applied for the Australian Wool Innovation (AWI) Graduate Training Program designed for graduates with a connection to the wool industry her aspirations in Ag propelled her from her tiny town in WA to huge cities across the globe.</p><p>The program delivers invaluable opportunities that take participants all over the world, and when Ellie discovered she’d landed one of the highly coveted positions she packed her bags, set her sights on city life, and prepared for the exciting journey that lay ahead.</p><p><img data-lazyloaded="1" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciIHdpZHRoPSI3NjgiIGhlaWdodD0iMTAyNCIgdmlld0JveD0iMCAwIDc2OCAxMDI0Ij48cmVjdCB3aWR0aD0iMTAwJSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxMDAlIiBzdHlsZT0iZmlsbDojY2ZkNGRiO2ZpbGwtb3BhY2l0eTogMC4xOyIvPjwvc3ZnPg==" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-10993" data-src="https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/IMG_4029-768x1024.jpg" alt="Series 1: Episode 7 - Ellie Bigwood - Image 2" width="768" height="1024" data-srcset="https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/IMG_4029-768x1024.jpg 768w, https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/IMG_4029-225x300.jpg 225w, https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/IMG_4029-1152x1536.jpg 1152w, https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/IMG_4029-1536x2048.jpg 1536w, https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/IMG_4029-scaled.jpg 1920w" data-sizes="(max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px" /></p><p>Part of the experience involved significant travel and time spent in international markets to gain global exposure to the wool supply chain. Plucked from a town of 400 people and dropped into a densely populated city where 400 residents lived in her apartment block alone, Ellie quickly realised it was a different ball game.</p><p>“In regional Australia the first thing you do when you meet someone new is try to establish a connection with them.</p><p>“Where are you from?”</p><p>“Frankland.”</p><p>“Do you know the Bigwoods?”</p><p>“Yes!”</p><p>“Oh! It’s a small world!”</p><p>And that’s the first thing you say to someone. In Shanghai, I threw that so far out of the window…it is not a small world at all!</p><p><img data-lazyloaded="1" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciIHdpZHRoPSI3NTciIGhlaWdodD0iMTAyNCIgdmlld0JveD0iMCAwIDc1NyAxMDI0Ij48cmVjdCB3aWR0aD0iMTAwJSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxMDAlIiBzdHlsZT0iZmlsbDojY2ZkNGRiO2ZpbGwtb3BhY2l0eTogMC4xOyIvPjwvc3ZnPg==" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-10994" data-src="https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/IMG_4719-757x1024.jpg" alt="Series 1: Episode 7 - Ellie Bigwood - Image 3" width="757" height="1024" data-srcset="https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/IMG_4719-757x1024.jpg 757w, https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/IMG_4719-222x300.jpg 222w, https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/IMG_4719-768x1039.jpg 768w, https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/IMG_4719-1135x1536.jpg 1135w, https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/IMG_4719-1514x2048.jpg 1514w, https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/IMG_4719-scaled.jpg 1892w" data-sizes="(max-width: 757px) 100vw, 757px" /></p><p>Despite being confronted by the magnitude Ellie quickly learned that country town camaraderie also exists within expansive urban centres, “my experience there was nothing short of extraordinary. It was so good. I absolutely loved it. And the people were amazing, just so hospitable – to the point where my colleagues and friends over there would literally hold my hand crossing the road to make sure I was safe.”</p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>HOME RUN</strong></p><p>Following the international jaunts Ellie returned to Sydney with a taste for the fast-paced worldly rush and a fierce determination to chase her endeavours in the agricultural industry, but when the COVID pandemic hit Australia, her plans were interrupted, and she headed back West to be closer to home. Ellie moved back to the farm and back in with her parents.</p><p>In the grips of the pandemic, the whole world paused for a beat, and the complete change of gears slowed Ellie’s pace.</p><p>With time and space to reflect and recalibrate she opened herself up to different opportunities and when a job at Pardoo station in the Pilbara presented itself she made the decision to move from wool to wagyu.</p><p> </p><p><strong>OUTBACK, INFRONT</strong></p><p>Approximately 150 kilometres from the nearest town of <a href="https://movetomore.com.au/locations/wa/port-hedland/">Port Hedland</a>, Pardoo is extremely isolated.</p><p>Moving from a regional community to a remote station Ellie embraced another dramatic transition, but even in the faraway place she found the strong sense of community she craves.</p><p>“We had some really beautiful families there – a lot of like young kids running around. We had some coconut palms there – so our chef would climb up these trees (and I’d be holding the ladder very securely because health and safety is important right?!) and the chef would cut down these coconuts and we’d have fresh coconut water. There were so, so many things that make it really special and unique and I love that.”</p><p>While her environment had changed, her ambitious spark had not dimmed, and Ellie quickly discovered that living back regionally would successfully feed her hunger for career progression and leadership development.</p><p>“When you move out to a rural area you don’t want to sacrifice your career development. A lot of young people are really ambitious and that’s a great thing, that can be a catalyst for change and improvement in living conditions and society for people. I just don’t feel as though in some workplaces their potential is not realized as soon as it could be. Whereas, out in the very sticks of Australia, if you’ve got potential, there’s probably not as many people there that you have to compete with, so you just slot right in.”</p><p>One could be mistaken in thinking that most young people couldn’t live without the creature comforts of big city life – busy shopping centres, bustling bars, and over-crowded cafes with an abundance of avocado on toast – but for Ellie the chance to opt out of a highly charged social calendar, in exchange for the solitude of life up North was exactly what she yearned for.</p><p>“I’ve lived such a busy life and lived in so many big cities. It’s been absolutely amazing, but it’s the first time in a long time where it’s nice not having to have any obligation to be somewhere on a weekend and I’m really into my gardening and crocheting and little fun, crafty hobbies.”</p><p><img data-lazyloaded="1" src="data:image/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciIHdpZHRoPSIxMDI0IiBoZWlnaHQ9Ijc2OCIgdmlld0JveD0iMCAwIDEwMjQgNzY4Ij48cmVjdCB3aWR0aD0iMTAwJSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxMDAlIiBzdHlsZT0iZmlsbDojY2ZkNGRiO2ZpbGwtb3BhY2l0eTogMC4xOyIvPjwvc3ZnPg==" loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignnone size-large wp-image-10992" data-src="https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/IMG_0531-1024x768.jpg" alt="Series 1: Episode 7 - Ellie Bigwood - Image 4" width="1024" height="768" data-srcset="https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/IMG_0531-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/IMG_0531-300x225.jpg 300w, https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/IMG_0531-768x576.jpg 768w, https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/IMG_0531-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https://movetomore.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/IMG_0531.jpg 2016w" data-sizes="auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /></p><p>Returning to regional Australia has reminded her of the joy of her childhood, and how much she loves a simpler life.</p><p>“I’m reminded of the beauty in the simplicity – it reminds you to enjoy things like nature and craft activities where you get that buzz from making something with your hands and that sort of pleasure is just totally different. I guess, with city life a lot of a lot of things are directly linked to spending money; shopping, going out for breakfast and dinners, but you know working on your backyard, DIY activities, growing things, getting your hands dirty making things – it’s a different kind of satisfaction, it’s really, really rewarding…and I wouldn’t change it for anything. I love my set of crochet hooks.”</p><p>Moving around the region, Ellie now finds herself in Karatha working as the Health, safety, and environmental (HSE) advisor for her partner’s business, Hawkzone Contracting, while completing her CertIV in WHS. She’s in her element enjoying career opportunities and lifestyle in a regional community where the average age is 29 as so many other young people have been drawn to the area to do the same.</p><p>Ellie says, “our home city is absolutely stunning – just behind the residential area are small hills streaked with red rock and green spinifex, that give a 360-degree view of the city. The daily orange and pink sunset frames the outback landscape on our doorstep, which is complemented by the beautiful blue coast that’s dotted with small islands.”</p><p>Just this week, Ellie’s partner seized the opportunity to take advantage of the spectacular view when he proposed on the hill against the resplendent backdrop, which is guaranteed to have a very special place in their hearts for many years to come.</p><p> </p><p><strong>Ellie’s regional rouse:</strong></p><blockquote><p><em>The regions offer so many hidden gems and little places that aren’t on a map and there’s less people there. Get to know your backyard better and get in touch with this beautiful country that we call home. Enjoy the offerings of career acceleration, but also a really nice lifestyle that offers adventure. It’s beautiful out there…”</em></p></blockquote><div class="podcast-article__subscribe-cta"><p>Don’t miss an episode! 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I’m very bias about<br /> it. Tell me what the experience was like growing up there.<br /> [00:26]<br /> Yes, so obviously started in the west moved East and have moved back<br /> to the West Inner little simple bubble there, but I loved the<br /> upbringing in the country back as you will have had so many fond<br /> memories about as well, but it’s just it’s very wholesome. You know,<br /> you grow you eat your own food you’re surrounded by this community<br /> of people who<br /> [00:50]<br /> Know you from the day that you’re born care about you until you<br /> leave and go to wherever across the world. That’s that’s always this<br /> connection with a small town community and growing up on a farm and<br /> yeah, once you’ve once you’ve left the farm and gone and seen other<br /> places you look back in it and you’re like, wow, most people don’t<br /> get an upbringing like that. So I’m very very fortunate with been<br /> raised that way and then you go from that<br /> [01:18]<br /> small community into a much larger Community when you go to Perth<br /> for high school given, there’s no High School sort of close to the<br /> region. What was the adjustment like going from Franklin River to<br /> Perth a big city? Yeah, like I’ve gone from<br /> [01:34]<br /> a<br /> [01:35]<br /> you in grade seven in year seven at primary school. There was six<br /> people in my year, which will be a lot for some tiny towns, but it<br /> won’t be much for others and then I’ve gone to 170 in year eight so<br /> big big adjustment, but I also loved it like I<br /> [01:53]<br /> Extroverted person. I love meeting new people and being surrounded<br /> by lots of different characters and I loved the change of scenery<br /> and the new opportunities that came with boarding school. It was it<br /> [02:05]<br /> overwhelming sort of when you you know got into that City<br /> environment and you had gone from being such a small Fish I<br /> suppose into this huge Pond. Was it intimidating or how did you sort<br /> of?<br /> [02:22]<br /> You know Embrace that transition.<br /> [02:26]<br /> intimidated, but it<br /> [02:27]<br /> was a little bit.<br /> [02:29]<br /> overwhelming<br /> [02:33]<br /> Community of I guess 400 people and then we’ve obviously got other<br /> towns where we do our grocery shopping. So you’d that are a little<br /> bit bigger so, you know,<br /> [02:42]<br /> you know a lot of people in the community back home and then you go<br /> to a city and yes, we still say that it’s a small world but<br /> [02:51]<br /> in Perth, like that’s your first introduction to the world’s<br /> actually not so small as I thought it was and a lot of these people.<br /> [03:00]<br /> Aren’t connected to the way that I grew up and aren’t really<br /> interested in necessarily in where their food comes from or you know<br /> things that would just bread and butter to us a very different young<br /> girls or young people that have grown up.<br /> [03:16]<br /> in the city, so I guess it<br /> [03:18]<br /> yeah it<br /> [03:20]<br /> I wasn’t yeah, what wouldn’t have been intimidated but it’s just<br /> very different back which is a good thing. You know, when you go<br /> into an environment that’s different and out of your comfort zone.<br /> That’s when you grow. So<br /> [03:31]<br /> I really grew to love boarding school. So your mum alerts you to the<br /> Australian wool Innovations inaugural graduate training program,<br /> which looks like a good opportunity to use. So he took a punt you<br /> applied. Of course, they picked you and it took you from wa to<br /> Sydney. What was that transition like for you the move to Sydney? I<br /> didn’t necessarily think I wanted to<br /> [03:51]<br /> live.<br /> [03:53]<br /> In another city at the time. I probably more thought I would go<br /> somewhere remote or I guess like a regional City like, you know<br /> Wagga Wagga to Warnabool somewhere like that. But Sydney was really<br /> really fun and I didn’t expect to be going there for at any point<br /> for that length of time. But no, it was really really fun back. I’ve<br /> got a lot of regional<br /> [04:17]<br /> experience but no when I first was moving there I felt a bit like,<br /> oh my goodness. This is this is a good change this big change. But<br /> yeah, it was really really exciting and a lot of extra<br /> opportunities, I guess came out of it. So it was<br /> [04:34]<br /> I yeah, I wouldn’t say it was gonna start of a lot of things but<br /> another great step<br /> [04:40]<br /> forward. So what did the Australian wool Innovations inaugural<br /> graduate training program actually involve.<br /> [04:45]<br /> Yeah, so it was an 18 month training program where essentially we<br /> worked three months rotations through each aspect of<br /> [04:56]<br /> awis department, so I spent<br /> [04:59]<br /> Three months in I guess the research and development team three<br /> months in like the I will grow Services team which essentially<br /> provides like Hands-On workshops and deliverable outcomes to will<br /> Growers face-to-face events, things like that.<br /> [05:15]<br /> all the way through to their product development their marketing<br /> sections in Australia and abroad and it included that 18 months<br /> included six months abroad between so three months between Shanghai<br /> and Hong Kong where<br /> [05:32]<br /> They had Global officers and in London another three months in<br /> London as well. So you can imagine the move to Sydney was exciting<br /> but knowing that London Shanghai and Hong Kong were on.<br /> [05:47]<br /> The cards was very exciting for a person who’s already like very<br /> excited. So like overflowing at this point.<br /> [05:58]<br /> And what we’re<br /> [05:59]<br /> telling when you were in Shanghai London and Hong Kong in those huge<br /> cities, what was some of the things that you really embraced or<br /> enjoyed or found challenging?<br /> [06:10]<br /> In Regional WA well, even Western Australia and Australia as a<br /> whole, you know, we’re always like oh, you know the first thing you<br /> do when you meet someone you is trying to establish a connection<br /> with them. Oh where you from offer Frankel? Oh, do you know the big<br /> words are yes, and it’s such an Arts a small world. And that’s the<br /> first thing you say to someone within five minutes in Shanghai. I<br /> through that so far out the window. It was it is not a small world<br /> at all gone from I guess my hometown of 400 people in the community.<br /> There are 400 people in my building in Shanghai. And yeah, it was it<br /> was just so different. But yeah, like when you when you know the<br /> least you learn the most there’s so many<br /> [06:58]<br /> I guess I’d say unknowns about.<br /> [07:03]<br /> I guess about China a lot of people.<br /> [07:07]<br /> Well, I other than my University mates who we went.<br /> [07:11]<br /> On a tour together with at University. I don’t know a lot of family<br /> or friends that have actually been to China for a for a holiday or<br /> to experience the culture and my experience there was nothing short<br /> of extraordinary. It was so good. I absolutely loved it. And the<br /> people were amazing like just so hospitable like to the point where<br /> my colleagues over there and friends would literally like hold my<br /> hand crossing the road to make sure I was safe and that cared for<br /> and I remember I had my birthday in<br /> [07:47]<br /> the Shanghai office and all the staff there. We just contributed to<br /> pay for like a chef to cook us lunches and stuff and on my birthday.<br /> [07:57]<br /> He took me aside and was like<br /> [07:59]<br /> said to me in.<br /> [08:01]<br /> Chinese and my mandarins got really sloppy. But today we’ll be<br /> making jobs which means dumplings in Chinese. And so we had this day<br /> making dumplings and he was from the Northern parts of China. So<br /> very strong accent and at the end of it I’d say, oh these are hard<br /> to which means good taste and he’d be like not how true and it was<br /> just, you know, it was just a brilliant brilliant experience and the<br /> cultural aspect of it.<br /> [08:29]<br /> in Shanghai, it’s just so much history there and so many things<br /> about<br /> [08:33]<br /> I guess China and greater parts of Asia, which I don’t think enough<br /> people in Australia know about so I loved it back and the experience<br /> was equally as amazing in Hong Kong which<br /> [08:46]<br /> obviously when I was there<br /> [08:48]<br /> It was a separate. It was a separate region speak a different<br /> language, and it’s probably more.<br /> [08:55]<br /> I’d say I describe Hong Kong as a place where the Western World<br /> meets Asia just<br /> [09:00]<br /> this a lot of similarities about it, but also a lot of differences<br /> but a lot of fun such a vibrant City. Yeah. I I just have so many<br /> fond memories.<br /> [09:11]<br /> So you’ve been living the city life in Australia and overseas. Now<br /> you’ve got used to all of these things like busy roads and new<br /> culinary experiences and lots of people but then covid hits and you<br /> leave Big Smoke behind and head back to the bush. Can you talk me<br /> through this moment?<br /> [09:31]<br /> again not planned<br /> [09:35]<br /> it yeah, and I came back with one suitcase in March 2020 to<br /> [09:42]<br /> I thought oh don’t want to deal with this Global pandemic. That<br /> sounds sounds a little bit foreign to me. I might just fly that kind<br /> to one of the most Regional remote parts of the world and go back to<br /> the farm in Franklin River and get to know my parents again, and you<br /> know just work. We’re really good.<br /> [10:02]<br /> In saying that yes, you can go back and work remotely from there. So<br /> look at yeah honestly came back with one suitcase thinking I’d be<br /> there for three months and that this whole covid thing. So yeah,<br /> silly it’ll blow over.<br /> [10:14]<br /> and by October I was thinking this was looking rather permanent, and<br /> I’d also<br /> [10:21]<br /> during that time of sort of six<br /> [10:24]<br /> Six months or so that I’ve been working remotely back in wa we were<br /> in a position.<br /> [10:29]<br /> in Western Australia, where<br /> [10:31]<br /> we were still able to have events and we didn’t have restrictions as<br /> much as they were experiencing on the east coast and in other parts<br /> of Australia, so I was able to go out to events and<br /> [10:43]<br /> be with Wool Growers and<br /> [10:45]<br /> you know see people interact and that’s sort of where I thought<br /> actually there’s a lot of work to be done here and this could really<br /> [10:55]<br /> be a good Catalyst to<br /> [10:59]<br /> I guess Advocate to have a person here full-time and I can do it.<br /> Like I I know a lot of these people and<br /> [11:06]<br /> you know everyone loves a person that’s<br /> [11:10]<br /> understands where they’re from and just having that I guess.<br /> [11:14]<br /> not<br /> [11:16]<br /> Mutual respect but yeah, just I guess that’s that connection. That<br /> would we’re from Western Australia and having a wa person based in<br /> Regional WA to do that job worked really well. So so yeah towards I<br /> guess October November. I started of 2020. I started thinking about<br /> basing myself out of WA full-time and then<br /> [11:37]<br /> In February, I moved to narrogen and worked.<br /> [11:44]<br /> There with AWI out of their local Depot office, which was great fun<br /> and worked out of there for 12 months. So yeah, really really fond<br /> memories there the marriage and Community was amazing with sporting<br /> clubs and yeah just such a fun vibrant group of<br /> [12:05]<br /> people of all ages absolutely loved it. And then yeah did that for<br /> 12 months and then I<br /> [12:10]<br /> snuck North you’ve gone back into this Regional Community where<br /> things are obviously a bit smaller again, and then you decide to go<br /> even smaller my heading up to the pilbara region in Northern WA what<br /> made you want to go ahead and make that move.<br /> [12:29]<br /> Yeah. I’ve gone from Market.<br /> [12:32]<br /> really went from<br /> [12:34]<br /> a city of 26 million in Shanghai to like a population of six people<br /> I do. Um, I guess there are a few things I felt with<br /> [12:47]<br /> with my job in marriage and<br /> [12:50]<br /> I guess I’d I’d missed having a team of people around me. Like I had<br /> when I was living in Sydney a team around me, you know, you get<br /> excited about similar things you’re working on at work or similar<br /> achievements Milestones that you can celebrate.<br /> [13:05]<br /> And so it wasn’t it wasn’t awis fault. I loved working remotely, but<br /> I just felt as though to step up and grow I needed to have a team.<br /> [13:15]<br /> of people around me and like some good mentors and<br /> [13:19]<br /> leaders nearby and<br /> [13:22]<br /> so I was ready for a change in that regard and also had picked up my<br /> lovely partner and he was based. He was actually based in the pilbra<br /> already.<br /> [13:33]<br /> So at that point I still I still wanted to work in agriculture. And<br /> yeah, I found a job as<br /> [13:42]<br /> a health and safety environment. So HSC coordinator based<br /> [13:46]<br /> in Purdue on a I guess a wagyu beef.<br /> [13:51]<br /> Enterprise there, so pardoo about 12,860 kilometers<br /> [13:56]<br /> East of Port Headland and yeah based myself there for 12 months. So<br /> [14:03]<br /> again, I’ve kind of gone one extreme to the other but<br /> [14:09]<br /> part of the reason why I sort of came back to marriage and well<br /> Franklin and their marriage and I never looked back to the city was<br /> [14:17]<br /> my country girl at heart. I loved the hustle and bustle.<br /> [14:21]<br /> and for I guess for a period but<br /> [14:24]<br /> I missed the things that make<br /> [14:28]<br /> a community a community so having your sporting clubs where<br /> [14:33]<br /> like in marriage and where we train with the girls for hockey<br /> training twice a week play a game on the weekend and you’ve just got<br /> this bond, which is<br /> [14:44]<br /> You know unlike sort of any other friendship you train to get a<br /> sweat together. It’s fantastic and I guess that sense even more so<br /> in Padu and in on a station, you just don’t have that.<br /> [14:59]<br /> obligation to be anywhere on a weekend which in Shanghai in Sydney<br /> even in narragen at times because it’s quite like a big Regional<br /> Center for wa that’s just always that<br /> [15:12]<br /> it’s just always that obligation to all they’re having a barbecue.<br /> We better go around for drinks or they’re going here and ask us to<br /> come like we should go and<br /> [15:21]<br /> You know, it’s all fun, but I just really enjoyed not having to be<br /> anywhere on a weekend and being able to.<br /> [15:27]<br /> Cultivate succulents in my backyard and grow veggies and you know<br /> crochet things because a lot of people tell me I’m a granium very<br /> mature for my age, but you know, like I would just I’ve just through<br /> Covenant things had the time and space to actually explore different<br /> crafts and other things that I like doing and yeah part of really<br /> provided that being on a station I guess allowed.<br /> [15:53]<br /> That no obligation Factor. You had more freedom on your time off to<br /> explore the coast stay home. And I really enjoyed that.<br /> [16:03]<br /> slower paced<br /> [16:04]<br /> Lifestyle, which also made you realize that there’s a lot of things<br /> [16:09]<br /> that you can live without so people often make an assumption that<br /> you know Regional life is the same across the board, you know that<br /> it’s going to be kind of a similar experience. If you’re living in<br /> Wagga Wagga or if you’re living in coach now, but as you just<br /> described within, you know International countries, there is Nuance<br /> across all of the different regions as it is over there.<br /> [16:32]<br /> So<br /> [16:33]<br /> what’s the difference between Regional living and then really remote<br /> living on a station having a good station<br /> [16:40]<br /> Community is really the key I think to really enjoying it and<br /> [16:47]<br /> you know the first<br /> [16:48]<br /> the first half of my experience there, like obviously some of our<br /> key families moved on which<br /> [16:55]<br /> changed the dynamic and that’s that’s just the way life in the<br /> north. But you know, we had some really beautiful families there a<br /> lot of like young kids running around with had some we had some<br /> coconut palms there. So our Chef would climb up these trees and I’d<br /> be holding the ladder very securely because health and safety is<br /> important right and you know with cut down these coconuts and have<br /> fresh coconut water with like it’s just they’re just so many things<br /> that matter really special and unique and I love that. So it was it<br /> was a change again and new experience again and everything up until<br /> this point whether it’s been on the station or in a regional<br /> [17:40]<br /> town or in China in Perth. Sydney has just every time it just<br /> [17:46]<br /> leads me to right what do I like what I feel like I want more of and<br /> what am I going to do next? I think that’s<br /> [17:54]<br /> a really great way of looking at the you know,<br /> [17:58]<br /> Vast spectrum of experiences that you’ve been through that you can<br /> cherry Peak the things that you really enjoy and then look to build<br /> them into your next experience. Even if it’s completely different.<br /> Can you tell me one thing that delighted you about living on a<br /> station that you didn’t expect?<br /> [18:16]<br /> I just<br /> [18:17]<br /> grew so much confidence<br /> [18:19]<br /> in myself because I was around people that<br /> [18:22]<br /> when I started there they had more confidence in me than I had in me<br /> and over time just<br /> [18:29]<br /> Just these really incredible leaders fostering conversation asking<br /> for my feedback on things how I would do things, you know, they<br /> didn’t.<br /> [18:40]<br /> they didn’t necessarily always take my suggestions on board or<br /> someone else’s suggestions on board, but<br /> [18:46]<br /> I think the point.<br /> [18:48]<br /> Was was that everyone could have a say at table and and from that?<br /> Yeah my confidence just really grew and I think yeah one one year on<br /> the station. I’ve<br /> [19:00]<br /> I cannot quantify the amount of experience that I’ve gained from it.<br /> You’re<br /> [19:05]<br /> a young person with so much passion and a lot of wisdom because you<br /> have had so many different career experiences. What advice do you<br /> have for older Generations about how we might be able to better<br /> connect with and involve the younger Generations coming through<br /> especially, you know, taking note of the different perspectives and<br /> experiences that you’ve had<br /> [19:26]<br /> I was<br /> [19:27]<br /> Say that.<br /> [19:28]<br /> empathy is<br /> [19:31]<br /> probably the key to<br /> [19:34]<br /> where I’ve<br /> [19:36]<br /> got to today and obviously I still have so much to learn about and<br /> grow on but<br /> [19:42]<br /> empathy just listening to the perspective of another person. I’ve<br /> certainly been in working environments and situations where some<br /> people in the room are just so focused on their idea being right and<br /> like they just have to be right. It has to be what they’ve said<br /> rather than listening to other or even asking other people for what<br /> their thoughts are on an idea. Like it’s my belief is that it should<br /> always be about what’s the best outcome for the team or what’s the<br /> best decision for the team? Not necessarily what my decision will be<br /> and yeah, too often. You still see.<br /> [20:23]<br /> a lot of ego and there are<br /> [20:26]<br /> you know, I want it to be my way and<br /> [20:29]<br /> by all means, you know, a lot of the time people with a lot of years<br /> of experience are gonna have great ideas to bring to the table and<br /> [20:40]<br /> I guess I’m not saying that you should always just do what a younger<br /> person says, but every voice at the table deserves to be heard and<br /> that’s like that’s diversity 101 that’s having.<br /> [20:55]<br /> people from different races people of different genders and<br /> identities and<br /> [21:02]<br /> you know male female backgrounds all that stuff is really important<br /> because<br /> [21:08]<br /> everyone can just bring such a different perspective and like a<br /> different solution to an idea and I think the more that the older<br /> generation can lean into that and just just ask questions just be<br /> like, well, this is what I think like what do you think or even<br /> better ask for a younger person’s view first and actually encourage<br /> encourage them to talk. I do see particularly in yum some younger<br /> women that they’re hesitant to bring forward their idea. Even if<br /> they’ve got actually a good idea going but they don’t have as much<br /> confidence to<br /> [21:43]<br /> let someone else know what they’re thinking. Yeah, we want it. We<br /> want those people we want to encourage them those young men and<br /> women who are like more timid. We want them to encourage to have<br /> encourage them to have their voice at the table. And I think that’s<br /> the best thing that you can do one because you’re going to hear<br /> [22:01]<br /> New Perspectives and ideas through a new lens that you may not have<br /> thought of but also you’re going to build rapport with those people<br /> and trust with those people.<br /> [22:11]<br /> And do you have some advice or tips to offer young people about why<br /> living regionally or remotely is a good opportunity for young<br /> people.<br /> [22:18]<br /> Yes. I certainly do in the regions particularly out here in the<br /> pilbra.<br /> [22:27]<br /> By pure default that there’s less people out in these parts in my<br /> experience that has just led to being able to get into leadership<br /> positions and experience career growth at a faster faster rate<br /> because down in the cities like anywhere across Australia,<br /> obviously, there’s pros and cons to everywhere that you live. I<br /> guess in the regional areas. You’re not saturated by so many people<br /> who are living in the city, you’re not competing with the same<br /> hundreds of thousands of people that have worked as an accountant or<br /> a working as a physio or as nurses in the city and they always want<br /> to base them Perth. But if you go regionally there’s less people<br /> there and there’s more opportunity for you as a young person to get<br /> into leadership positions, and I guess grow your skill set faster.<br /> Of course, you’ve got to come with a winning attitude.<br /> [23:27]<br /> I guess confidence is always good but getting your foot in the door<br /> is a great start use all the tools that you have LinkedIn is great<br /> online platforms like that work functions. Just get out say hi and<br /> ask people ask other people.<br /> [23:44]<br /> A lot of questions people love talking about themselves, which is<br /> what I’ve been doing for the last however long it’s been great.<br /> [23:50]<br /> Love it. Tell me quickly. What did you give up? And what did you<br /> gain about moving back to Regional, Australia?<br /> [24:01]<br /> I gave up Barista Coffee.<br /> [24:05]<br /> and being able to go out to brunches whenever I felt like on the<br /> weekend and<br /> [24:14]<br /> going dancing on this particular night and and whatnot. But being<br /> back in the bush and particularly.<br /> [24:22]<br /> living on a station<br /> [24:24]<br /> It’s really humbling because it makes you realize that there are so<br /> many things that you can live without like going and get a cop<br /> getting a coffee in the morning.<br /> [24:33]<br /> It’s a privilege like being able to go out for breakfast have a good<br /> hair hairdresser nearby like these are privileges like we live in<br /> such.<br /> [24:43]<br /> and amazing world where like amazing country where we just we take<br /> these things for granted and so many parts of the world which which<br /> don’t have these which don’t have these things but when you’re<br /> living in a city because they’re<br /> [24:59]<br /> Always there around you. You forget to be grateful for them or you<br /> you forget that not everyone has access to it and it’s just becomes<br /> a part of life. But yeah being away from it all.<br /> [25:11]<br /> It gives you a really healthy perspective and just remind it’s a<br /> really good reminder of the things that you can live without and how<br /> we should.<br /> [25:20]<br /> really be grateful for<br /> [25:23]<br /> all these<br /> [25:24]<br /> Outlets, whether it’s coffee, whether it’s a sporting club around us<br /> that many other places in the world<br /> [25:33]<br /> don’t have<br /> [25:35]<br /> Absolutely, and it sort of that.<br /> [25:38]<br /> Beauty in the Simplicity isn’t it reminds you to kind of enjoy<br /> things like nature and you know, the things you mentioned earlier<br /> like craft activities where you get that buzz from making something<br /> with your hands and and that sort of you know pleasure that you can<br /> get that is just totally different but just as for feeling yeah,<br /> [25:59]<br /> yeah, and if not more so because<br /> [26:04]<br /> yes, I guess City Life a lot of<br /> [26:09]<br /> a lot of the things whether you’re going out for breakfast dinners.<br /> [26:12]<br /> Coffee’s just a few examples of shopping in big shopping centers. A<br /> lot of it is directly linked to spending money, but you know working<br /> on<br /> [26:22]<br /> Your backyard doing DIY. I’m growing things. It’s<br /> [26:27]<br /> it’s not this obviously like monies involved in a lot of things but<br /> getting your hands dirty making things. It’s<br /> [26:35]<br /> it’s a different kind of satisfaction. Well for me anyway, it’s it’s<br /> really really rewarding and creating the space to do that or being<br /> in an environment like a station.<br /> [26:47]<br /> Where that’s or in the regions where a really honed into that and<br /> now it’s just become a part of who I am and I I wouldn’t change it<br /> for anything. I love my set of crochet hooks.<br /> [27:01]<br /> Like if I’d been in city in Sydney or in a city the whole time it’s<br /> probably an aspect of my character that I<br /> [27:07]<br /> would never really lent into so Ellie imagine that you’re in a<br /> boardroom of execs which you’ve you know experienced many times over<br /> and you have to pitch to them. Why you think moving to Regional<br /> Australia is the best idea. Can you give me your elevator pitch?<br /> [27:27]<br /> Back people of the boardroom. Thanks for your time this afternoon.<br /> [27:32]<br /> why people should move to Regional Australia one for your own<br /> growth, so<br /> [27:41]<br /> In the cities you are in a saturated Market where?<br /> [27:46]<br /> thousands of other people want the job that you want and you’re also<br /> competing with a lot of<br /> [27:51]<br /> other experienced people for similar positions. Whereas out in the<br /> bush just by default that this less people out there and smaller<br /> population. You actually have a much<br /> [28:04]<br /> better chance at<br /> [28:06]<br /> at growing your career your career.<br /> [28:10]<br /> Skill set like hire because those leadership positions and roles<br /> aren’t filled to the level. They are in the city. So for your own<br /> career growth also,<br /> [28:20]<br /> Also the adventure, you know in the city you’ve got.<br /> [28:25]<br /> everyone develops like a beautiful routine wherever they are, but<br /> [28:29]<br /> My I have a preference and you can call me bias. But I believe that<br /> there is so much that can be offered from a regional lifestyle<br /> whether you go and join a local sporting club or whether you’re<br /> living on the coast in Australia’s Northwest and you can go out<br /> boating on the weekend and explore the beaches or if you’re in the<br /> Kimberly in go and see the gorgeous wherever you are in Australia<br /> the regions offer so many hidden gems and<br /> [28:57]<br /> little places which aren’t on a map that there’s less people there<br /> and you just it’s exploring Australia the country in which you live<br /> in such a<br /> [29:07]<br /> I guess in a more intimate way like get get to know your backyard<br /> better be in touch with this beautiful country that we call home and<br /> offer.<br /> [29:17]<br /> enjoy the offerings of<br /> [29:20]<br /> career acceleration, but also a really nice lifestyle that offers<br /> adventure and it’s you know beautiful out<br /> [29:29]<br /> there.<br /> [29:30]<br /> You’ve got me where they’re all running out the boardroom to book<br /> their their flight to the pure you.<br /> [29:37]<br /> That is brilliant. Thank you so much for joining me today Ellie.<br /> It’s been an absolute pleasure to talk to you. You always give me<br /> things to go away and think about your perspective is so fresh.<br /> [29:48]<br /> Oh thank you back. It has been a delight and thank you for wanting<br /> to include my voice as part of this discussion. I think there are so<br /> many people in Regional areas, which have great great stories to<br /> tell. Yeah. Thank you so much for having me<br /> [30:05]<br /> your passion and excitement. It’s just so palpable and it’s really<br /> contagious and I think that a lot of people are gonna be compelled<br /> to head out to the regions once they hear from your perspective<br /> because you’ve uncovered a couple of thoughts that aren’t, you know<br /> necessarily the dominant ones that we get things like the fact that<br /> yes, you can have career growth really accelerate your aspirations<br /> when you’re not, you know metropolitan area, which is a fascinating<br /> thought to consider. So thanks again for your time.<br /> [30:37]<br /> Absolute pleasure. 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